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Posted by: from Oakville
1/12/2011 at 6:32:22 PM

door from garage to house- does it need to be a firedoor?

also, we have a commercial hollow metal door installed. would like to replace door with insulated door and not change jamb. any ideas where i might acquire one in oakvile - it's not a standard setup that you can get at home depot.

also, can i insulate this door somehow. for example - foam on inside or outside. expandable foam sprayed in thru drilled holes? doesn't have to be perfect.

thanks

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Date/Time1/25/2011 at 12:06:31 AM

Hi the door from garage should be in exterior door and to change door on a commercial steel frame get a normal exterior door and open the openings for the hinges that's on the frame to the door.

You coul find plane insulated doors with no openings at home hardware.

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ECR Canada Inc. Construction and Renovation in Calgary
Date/Time1/25/2011 at 10:17:18 PM

the entrance door from garage needs to be a 20minute fire door. It is very important when you change your existing door to a 20minute fire proof door, you need to change the door frame with it due to (co) and other toxic fumes from car exhaust.

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Date/Time1/26/2011 at 7:36:28 AM

In addition to being an exterior sealed door unit, you should have a self closure installed as well. This is all to keep gases from entering the home from the garage.

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Date/Time2/1/2011 at 5:48:04 PM

Let's start with the garge door to the house yes it must be fire rated does it have to be steel no a solid wood door would do the job just as long it has FRD on the side means Fire Rated Door .

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Date/Time2/5/2011 at 4:35:38 PM

Hi Brian to answer your question yes it has to be a FRD because the wall with the doorway whole in it is fire rated thats OBC ) ( ontario building code) .Your question on saying it doesn't have to be perfect ,is correct but it should be proper your paying , done right or wrong thanx Bill

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Brian in Oakville
Date/Time2/11/2011 at 7:59:35 PM

thanks everyone for your useful info on the topic.

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Kevin in Edmonton
Date/Time7/29/2011 at 10:00:52 AM

just to make sure you have a full understanding of the necesity to be compliant. if you are required by the local AHJ (authority having jurisdiction) and provincial building code to have a fire rated door assembly, you will need to ensure it meets NFPA 8o "standard for fire doors" requirement found in 5.2.15.4 & 5.2.13.3.

You will also need to ensure all hardware and closers are UL listed to meet the fire label requirments.

if you need any further assistance you can look for a certified FDAI (fire doo assembly inspector) who can come out and consult for you.

Kevin E. Binksma FDAI

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Roger in Barrie
Date/Time6/23/2018 at 4:21:39 PM

This is a great question. In Ontario door between attached garage and house IS NOT REQUIRED TO BE FIRE RATED! If you have shared garage etc then it is required to be fire rate.

Everyone get this one wrong. I got a free bottle of wind from my neighbour who sold his house because I provided him with the Ontario Building Code information to correct the deficiency the Home Inspector had mistakenly pointed out in his report.

People who take the Nachi online course will probably always get this wrong as in the US the door is required to be fire-rated.

Sharing knowledge makes us all more professional.

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Kevin in Edmonton
Date/Time6/23/2018 at 6:11:48 PM

As a certified Fire Door Inspector, i recomend contacting a local fire door inspector to get the code compliant requirements for your jurisdiction.

In your area contact Eric Mannhardt.

eric@mannmade.ca

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