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Posted by: from Richmond Hill
4/27/2017 at 9:47:41 AM

Is it possible to install new tile on existing kitchen without removing the cabinets and counter top?

If demo is done on existing kitchen, I find it almost impossible to do damage on existing kitchen cabinets. And the cabinets where builders grade even I remove it might not everything go back the same it was.

What are your tips and recommendations?

Much appreciated.

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Date/Time4/27/2017 at 10:10:15 AM

Hi

Depence where you want install the tiles,

In the floor or backsplash?

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Mark from Total Tile in Toronto
Date/Time4/27/2017 at 10:15:37 AM

Hi,

You definitely do not need to remove your existing tile as long as the existing tile and grout joints are intact meaning it has not cracked or been damaged.

If the tile or joints have been damaged this could be a subfloor issue which I would not recommend installation on top of existing.

If you inspect and decide to go on top make sure to skim coat it's basically cement patch or a specialized cement roll on product in order to make the top of your existing tile smooth, fill in any cracks and the you are ready for new tile.

If this is a question in regards to backsplash installation then all you need to do is remove the valance which is a wood filler piece designed to hide undermount cabinet lighting. Remove that first. Protect your countertop. Remover tile. Install new tile. Grout. If the new tile you are installing you may need to cut your valance back in order to fit it once you are completed the backsplash.

Hope this helps.

Mark

Total Tile

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Date/Time4/27/2017 at 10:16:17 AM

I would never tile on top of tile, it is recommended by the professionals and by standards to always remove old. Just the weight alone on your joists, plus the weight of furniture, kitchen and the people alone standing there is bound to have cracks in the grout and shift will crack the tiles too. Its worth the time to remove and replace as it is proper and it will butt accordingly to other surfaces such as existing hardwood or laminate without having a large transition. Please do not do the easy way out or it will cost you in the long run.

Aiello House Renovations

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Greg from Luxe in Burnaby
Date/Time4/27/2017 at 11:49:27 AM

Hi there. Is possible to re-do the tiles without removeing the cabinets. However make sure you hire a right person because many things matters.

Thanks,

Euro Pro Reno

Greg

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Date/Time4/27/2017 at 11:55:03 PM

I have done tile installation for 30 years. You do not have to remove your cabinets or countertops but you must protect them. Wrap them with a protective layer of ram board or something similar. If you are removing existing ceramic tile - take care to use the vibration to break the cement bond and not too much force when you use a chipping hammer. If you do this it way, pieces will not fly around and damage things- as a bonus your tile will break and lift off in much larger pieces which do not fly up and cause damage. If your pushing too hard the tile will break in small pieces and more cement will be stuck to the floor and need to be taken off.

Have fun!

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Date/Time4/28/2017 at 12:09:32 AM

Thank you all for the replies. I am doing the flooring and I do wish to remove the existing tile how about when you get close to the cabinets and half of the tile is under the cabinets. I was thinking to use the grinder and hoping not to damage is there another way.

Thank you all!

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Date/Time4/28/2017 at 2:18:11 AM

It depends on where you want to install new tiles. Backsplash, or floor. Both applications you do not need to remove the kitchen cabinets. Tile is just fine going right against the toe kick of the cabinets if you are wanting to do the floor.

It is possible to install tile over existing tile but it is definitely not the proper way of doing it and should never be a DIY project. Another thing to consider is the hight gain with the new tiles. It usually becomes a problem against other types of floorIng that the tile transitions to. Many things can go wrong. Proper way is to remove existing tile, secure the subfloor propely if needed and then install new tile and grout.

If you are talking about the kitchen backsplash, the old tile will have to be removed. In a lot of cases, when removing old tile from drywall, that drywall gets damaged beyond repair. In that case, the drywall would have to be replaced as well. It is not too difficult to do, but will require a little extra work.

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